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SDF paipo rincon rocket 002

Unread post by krusher74 » Sat Oct 07, 2017 12:41 pm

Its now 5 years since I documented my first paipo build here viewtopic.php?f=4&t=250

In that time I have tried, Pu and poly resin, eps and epoxy, pu and epoxy, hollow paulownia epoxy top coat, oiled thin paulownia solid board and a surf mat and have in the process learned a lot about what works and how boards/ rails actually work. And shaped a few boards for others.

After all this it turns out that the best performance board was the first one :lol: That poor board took a beating and many plane journeys till it was so beaten/sunken you would not believe! But even beaten and miss-shapen it still performed very well and retained it original feel. (lesson learned there too)

So I retired it and put it in the mail to California and had memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=114 build a computer file of it. (I will let him tell you how beaten it was!) But he did a fantastic job of recreating it original likeness.

(if anyone want to build one I am happy to share the file)

After a few false starts back in the UK with another shapers CNC machine I have finally today finished shaped it and it will be glassed this week. The aim is to see if it can mirror the first magic boards performance,
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Unread post by nomastomas » Sun Oct 08, 2017 2:03 am

SDF paipo rincon rocket 001..."picture is worth 1,000 words"
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It wasn't until I built the CNC file and viewed it in 3D that I could appreciate the elements of this shape.
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Unread post by GeoffreyLevens » Sun Oct 08, 2017 9:16 am

Now that's proper use of CNC tech, reproduction of a magic board! Looking forward to hearing how it turns out.

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Unread post by CHRISPI » Sun Oct 08, 2017 10:18 am

Was the 001 in a fire, if it’s from riding you must be pulling big G s, I am imprested

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CHRISPI wrote:Was the 001 in a fire, if it’s from riding you must be pulling big G s, I am impressed
I think over many surfs it got dinged and maybe had some water in it, I think then in the hold of the plane it got squashed with altitude (or some other more sensible physics)

probably had over 200 surfs on it.

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Unread post by nomastomas » Mon Oct 09, 2017 1:13 pm

GeoffreyLevens wrote:Now that's proper use of CNC tech, reproduction of a magic board!...
...and, what would be "improper" use of CNC tech? ;)
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Unread post by GeoffreyLevens » Tue Oct 10, 2017 9:29 am

nomastomas wrote:
GeoffreyLevens wrote:Now that's proper use of CNC tech, reproduction of a magic board!...
...and, what would be "improper" use of CNC tech? ;)
Buzzing out hundreds of identical mediocre shapes using poor quality foam, then having low wage non-surfers scrub smooth and do crappy glass jobs on them. Ideally all that would happen in a 3rd world country with no safety regs enforcement.

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Unread post by nomastomas » Tue Oct 10, 2017 12:10 pm

Well, that's a relief. I wouldn't want to be accused of using CNC tech improperly.
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Unread post by krusher74 » Sat Nov 25, 2017 11:05 am

Well after a poor run of surf conditions I finally got in the water with the new board and a stoked to say its fulfilled the project brief totally :D

The rocker and slight displacement hull in the front that helps the the board glide (displace) through that difficult 0 to 5mph before planing like the original did it there, I had struggled to make that happen with my other shaping attempts.

Its turns hard on a rail with great hold (finless) I round over the edge of the rail, the only hard edge is the back of the board.

Stoked!!!! 8-)

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Unread post by zensuni » Tue Nov 28, 2017 6:04 pm

Sounds fun, what material the deck pad is made of ?

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Unread post by bgreen » Sat Dec 02, 2017 6:15 am

So it's an improvement on #1?

Are the rails essentially square like a boogie board?

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Unread post by krusher74 » Sun Feb 25, 2018 6:58 am

zensuni wrote:Sounds fun, what material the deck pad is made of ?
Its just self adhesive neoprene foam you can buy online, but the glue was poor and if came off in a few surfs :(

these are the real deal http://www.covepad.com/about.html

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Unread post by krusher74 » Sun Feb 25, 2018 7:07 am

bgreen wrote:So it's an improvement on #1?

Are the rails essentially square like a boogie board?
Its no better or worse that no1, so got my magic board back !!

The bottom chine is flat/square the edges are rounded over. only hard edge I have is across the tail.

Next evolution will be to try a different tail shape (more of a corner peg that a point) and either a single or double concave/channels on either side of the board (between bot1 and rail) outside the main single concave, to try to get so more traction/pivot on top turns. I guess kinda hooking the underside of the rail like on your latest board.

The tail is left square on the cnc cut so I can hand shape any tail I like. 8-)
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Unread post by nomastomas » Sun Feb 25, 2018 8:24 am

I like the idea of adding a single channel out there. You might want to consider raising the rail point maybe half-way while you're at it to add a little more rocker out at the rail. Will the channel start at the next slice up or at the middle slice?
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Unread post by krusher74 » Wed Feb 28, 2018 12:49 pm

nomastomas wrote:I like the idea of adding a single channel out there. You might want to consider raising the rail point maybe half-way while you're at it to add a little more rocker out at the rail. Will the channel start at the next slice up or at the middle slice?
I like the rail rocker idea :o

I think i would try a channel/s stretching about 12 to 15" up from the tail. (open at the tail.)

I rode a friends board in california and he had shape a tail with about 4" corner pegs and a crescent cut out between, I found it easier to do a hard top turn pivoting on that peg. :)

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