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Duckfeet/DaFin comparison (land-based early impressions)

Unread post by rodndtube » Wed Oct 10, 2012 4:04 pm

From Aquatic Apes, but of interest to wet feet folks (and I don't know how to link just that discussion):

Graeme Webster - Duckfeet/DaFin comparison (land-based early impressions):
http://www.surfmat.org/t314-21st-century-ducks

Here is the Aquatic Apes link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/2852561 ... 199692640/
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Re: Duckfeet/DaFin comparison (land-based early impressions)

Unread post by krusher74 » Thu Nov 08, 2012 6:19 am

In my opinion Duck feet are the worst fins i have ever owned!

duck feet are horribly long, (i did cut a fair few inches off them and get some use out of them)

I much prefer the more "standard" bobyboard company fins

I would choose, mike stewart vipers/toobs blunt cuts/churchills (the list goes on!) over duckfeet. (owned and tried them all)

If you do however like long slow kicks the longer duckfeet may suit you.

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Re: Duckfeet/DaFin comparison (land-based early impressions)

Unread post by rodndtube » Mon May 20, 2013 9:43 am

I had the chance to try DaFin swim fins for the first time last week thanks to John Hughes of Cocoa Beach. The fins took some getting used to after using Vipers for several years (and the less frequent use of Hydro Techs in cold water). But, within an hour the fins were working without a thought... earning an "A" in my book. I plan on adding a pair of XL to my cold water quiver when I need to load up on 3mm or more. Probably will buy a pair of L for warm/cool water use as well. Still love my Vipers but the Large DaFins will give me increased flexibility in warm through cool waters. Nice sized foot pocket.

John told me that the rubber formulation in the new DaFins is even nicer than the stiffer rubber in the old formulation fins that I used. Anybody used both formulations in the water?
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Re: Duckfeet/DaFin comparison (land-based early impressions)

Unread post by soulglider » Mon May 20, 2013 10:02 am

i have. like them both. i will tell you now. i have been using my fins now for a little less than a year and the rubber is disintegrating rapidly...this is the 4th pair i've had and its the same thing every time. i am going back to makapuu's.
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Re: Duckfeet/DaFin comparison (land-based early impressions)

Unread post by rodndtube » Mon May 20, 2013 12:48 pm

The DaFins are disintegrating? The old or new formulation? That is a bummer.

Is it the toxic waste of SoCal waters eating them away <joking>? My buddy in Central Atlantic Florida has not experienced that problem.
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Re: Duckfeet/DaFin comparison (land-based early impressions)

Unread post by soulglider » Tue May 21, 2013 10:07 am

the new. i had old dafins 5 or 6 years ago. they lasted longer. if you didnt pull them on by the strap. if you did, SNAP! i didnt like them then. i have always disliked the way they felt from the factory, i cut the wide tips off, making them look like the kicks. its easy to do and they work great, not that fucky bending right at the foot pocket/blade area. i talked to the dafin folks and they said, the o.g. dafins were designed for swimming and keeping the fins mostly under water, the kicks are adjustments they made to the o.g. ones to make them work better for coming up out of water and then penetrating it again and again while kicking hence....
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Unread post by mrmike » Tue May 21, 2013 10:13 am

my Dafins are 2year old and I use them almost every day and they still look new. like I said before fin are like shoes not all peoples feet fit the same shoe

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Re: Duckfeet/DaFin comparison (land-based early impressions)

Unread post by skiff » Thu Jul 11, 2013 4:28 pm

I've been using DaFins for about five years, and nothing I've ever tried before came even close to the level of comfort and non-crampability of the DaFins. A Hawaiian buddy turned me onto them, saying, 'Mark Cunningham and Brian Keaulana designed 'em, WHAT ELSE DO YOU NEED TO KNOW?!' And he's been proved right. I always keep a backup pair just in case something happens to the first pair (no store around here carries them, so i's a 5-7 day UPS delay if they somehow turn up missing...), but they seem to be 'wearing' just fine. The one pair I've been using for over three years look brand new, and I use them pretty frequently. Fins are like shoes, it's been said, and nothing is truer. What fits one guy maybe won't fit the next? But that said, I've yet to meet a guy who's tried DaFins and not been wholly convinced; they seem to be 'that' good.
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Re: Duckfeet/DaFin comparison (land-based early impressions)

Unread post by krusher74 » Sun Jul 28, 2013 3:59 am

[quote="soulglider"]the new. i had old dafins 5 or 6 years ago. they lasted longer. if you didnt pull them on by the strap. if you did, SNAP! i didnt like them then. i have always disliked the way they felt from the factory, i cut the wide tips off, making them look like the kicks. its easy to do and they work great, not that fucky bending right at the foot pocket/blade area. i talked to the dafin folks and they said, the o.g. dafins were designed for swimming and keeping the fins mostly under water, the kicks are adjustments they made to the o.g. ones to make them work better for coming up out of water and then penetrating it again and again while kicking hence....[/quot

Yeah i tried a pair like them , then 3 months later snap!!! useless :cry:

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Re: Duckfeet/DaFin comparison (land-based early impressions)

Unread post by bgreen » Sat Aug 10, 2013 7:29 am

Based on the comments - I bought a pair. Some feedback -

1) they are like excavators and pick up small rocks & sand while wading out.

2) they seem to require a very different kick action to my churchills. I found I got more propulsion by being further back on the board.

3) they are soft & comfortable.

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Unread post by rodndtube » Sat Aug 10, 2013 11:57 am

bgreen wrote:Based on the comments - I bought a pair. Some feedback -

1) they are like excavators and pick up small rocks & sand while wading out.

2) they seem to require a very different kick action to my churchills. I found I got more propulsion by being further back on the board.

3) they are soft & comfortable.

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Unread post by rodndtube » Wed Mar 12, 2014 4:17 pm

DaFins and Vipers V5 - Some Observations

DaFins: Wide foot pocket, more power for catching a wave, more drag when extending legs to conform to wave. The DaFins blades tend to be depressed by the wave causing drag--this is not a factor on a open-faced, more powerful wave.

Vipers V5 Yellow Dot: Narrow foot pocket, better cruise kicking for longer paddles, captures energy from the wave when extending legs to conform to the wave. The Vipers remain neutral to the wave and capture the wave's energy--this is beneficial when in a flat section of the wave or when the planning surface benefits from being elongated.
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Re: Duckfeet/DaFin comparison (land-based early impressions)

Unread post by flojo » Sun Jun 08, 2014 2:14 pm

Have had a pair of duckfeet for awhile...good power but a tad uncomfortable and slow to accelerate for my skill level {moderate at best}. Bought a pair of dafins this morning and took out my mat in 3 foot beach break..Dafins were just much easier to use. Caught a lot of waves and quick turn aound take offs were much more successful than with the vipers which take longer to get going. very comfortable and just made the go out much more like fun and less like work--

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Unread post by rodndtube » Sun Jun 08, 2014 4:04 pm

Since I have been down in Costa Rica for a week now it is fair to say that DaFins are winning the day. I've only used the Yellow Dot Vipers (5") once, because of a slight blister or attack my a small pebble. As Bob mentioned the DaFins do tend to suck the sand & small stones if you are not careful.
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Unread post by krusher74 » Sun Jun 08, 2014 5:08 pm

rodndtube wrote:Since I have been down in Costa Rica for a week now it is fair to say that DaFins are winning the day. I've only used the Yellow Dot Vipers (5") once, because of a slight blister or attack my a small pebble. As Bob mentioned the DaFins do tend to suck the sand & small stones if you are not careful.
Have you given the dafins heal straps any close inspection, mine perished ad snapped,i hope your don't suffer the same fate. :(

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Unread post by rodndtube » Sun Jun 08, 2014 5:37 pm

The straps have been holding up fine. I know of people using stand-up surf booties and stretching them way out, but with wet socks they have been holding up thus far.
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Unread post by Canyon » Fri Oct 10, 2014 12:45 am

The new duck feet are amazing. Very soft/comfortable rubber compared to the old formula. I've used mine in 2 foot slop to 12 foot nuking reef breaks on Oahu. After watching Wiamea break this past winter, with all the lifeguards running around with duck feet, I stopped looking for a better fin.

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Unread post by bgreen » Mon Oct 27, 2014 3:19 am

I just got a pair of duckfeet. I'm a Churchill fan but I liked these fins as much as anything else I've tried. They rubbed a bit around the ankle but otherwise were pretty comfortable and you can get a bit of traction from them.

I bought a pair of DaFins but they haven't had much use. I also have a pair of UDTs that I mostly use for kick training. In short period waves I find them too much work.

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Unread post by nomastomas » Fri Nov 07, 2014 8:59 pm

I've relied on the same old pair of "Custom" Model Duck Feet for over 25yr, and suffered off-and-on with the toe-knucks blisters and occasional calf-muscle cramps. I have a wide, size 9.5-10 shoe size, and the Duck Feet are Size Large. It always felt that my toes were being crammed into the foot pocket by the heel strap. A few months ago, I bought a pair of DaFins Size Large (9-10) after reading all the hype about the foot comfort they afforded. And, besides, my old DF were starting to show cracks on the fin ribs. The DFs were really very comfortable, but I couldn't seem to get as much thrust as I could from my DFs. Then I changed my kick style from full leg, using mostly quad muscles, to a shorter, flutter kick, using mostly calf muscles. This improved thrust, but still not as much as my old DFs. The lack of thrust with Da Fins was most noticeable on big days, when trying to paddle back outside, and when trying to paddle into larger/faster waves. Felt like I was on a treadmill, and found that arm-paddling was more productive.

So, after further research, I ordered a Size Large pair of Ally ERS4s. They're an asymmetric design, very similar to Churchies, but with better drainage (another thing I didn't like about my Duckies) When they arrived in the mail, I was disappointed to discover that I could only get my wide-ass foot half-way into the foot pocket! Sent them back to Amazon, and went to my local Sports Chalet and picked up a new pair of Duckies. I'd read that Voit had greatly improved the foot comfort of the new Custom Model, and the price at $40 was a good $15-$20 cheaper than the more trendy Vipers, DaFins, Churchies, Hydros, etc. I bought the "Extra Large" size which is Size 9-11, figuring it would accommodate my Barney Ruble feet, and offer a little extra room for socks when it gets colder.

Today, I paddled out at one of my favorite belly board beach breaks. Surf was a weak 3-2, normally wouldn't have bothered, but I was anxious to try the new flips. First off, my new Customs are almost an inch longer than my old Customs. Now the old Customs are Size Large and the new are Size X Large. I wonder if others have noticed an increase in length or if sizing has changed? No problem getting them on and they fit snug, but with plenty of toe room. I noticed the increased thrust (over DaFins) immediately on the paddle out. Less struggling to get into waves, and getting into waves earlier. Back to using full leg kick. Order has been restored to my universe.
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