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is it or isn't it? please have a look

Unread post by karuhi » Fri Jan 23, 2015 10:57 pm

Hi guys, i've just been sent this on new zealands answer to ebay. the guy says 1920's, does anyone agree and is it worth buying as a bit of an investment?
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing ... =835516539

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Unread post by bgreen » Fri Jan 23, 2015 11:57 pm

Ask some questions about why they think it was from the 20/30s and who owned it/where was it ridden.

5'3" x 9.8" - a very narrow board. My guess it would be ridden prone at that width. Unless it is modern, it is must be earlier than the 60s- so at $40 you can't go too far wrong.

Not sure if any collector's post here. I'm not one (unless you count a pile of boards I ride). I believe there is a surf museum in Mt Maunganui. If you're down that way see what they have. Take some photos as well. I asked about their collection but never got much of a response.

Scroll down this page: http://home.brisnet.org.au/~bgreen/bgpa ... age8.shtml

Clink on some of the links such as these (you'll see photos up to 1944 showing similar boards):

Through the wonder country, New Zealand invites you
Otaki Beach
Tasman rollers pound the shore at Auckland's Piha Beach while swimmers revel in the foaming surf
Girl surfer with board


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Unread post by karuhi » Sat Jan 24, 2015 5:33 am

thanks Bob, i've asked those questions, it will be interesting to see if i get a reply. i have my doubts to its authenticity due to the fact it seems shaped as a true alaia in native new zealand timber, in the 20's-30's someone would have had to have had a real knowledge of that shape, and new zealand prior to ww2 was pretty isolated. if it was a basic plank shape I'd be more convinced. i have a funny feeling the mount surf museum has been split up and sold off - could be wrong.
my family are probably some of those guys on the paipos at muriwai and piha beach. when i was a kid we had a stack of them of all shapes, sadly know lost.

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Unread post by krusher74 » Sat Jan 24, 2015 6:08 am

"Have been told it's either an alaia surfboard or paipo belly board from the 1920s to 1930s "

That sentence leads me to feel he's asked some friends and that's their best uneducated guess, if they were educated guess why not include more facts about why its 20s/30s :?

Nice looking board anyway for $50. You probably could not get the timber to make one for that little ;)

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Unread post by bgreen » Sat Jan 24, 2015 6:39 am

No worries. It could be a copy of an original. However, given the price is fairly low, there doesn't seem to be much benefit (unless it is hoped the price will go way higher). Several of the NZ boards had crescent tails. There is a photo of a group of guys on the south island - lots of variety in boards.
I'll be interested to hear if you get an answer.

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Unread post by rodndtube » Sat Jan 24, 2015 9:40 am

The fact that the board's bottom is convex rather then concave lends some authenticity. Very narrow as mentioned above pushes it into the paipo arena rather than alaia. NZ has indigenous paipo-riding roots so hey, why not. Looks like a single plank of wood. The price is not exorbitant.
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Unread post by bgreen » Sat Jan 24, 2015 3:19 pm

The short board was reportedly used in the 1930s at the Gisbourne surf lifesaving cub for hire purposes, according to the local museum. The longer board was c 1947, and made by a major woodworking company of the time, Henderson & Pollard

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Unread post by karuhi » Sat Jan 24, 2015 8:52 pm

well, went on a bit of a whim and purchased it. bidding got a bit stiff towards the end, but managed to get it for $94 nz. which really is pretty cheap. now to work out how to get it here..... its only about 15 hrs drive away.

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Unread post by rodndtube » Sat Jan 24, 2015 11:36 pm

Many smiles :)
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