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Re: Can't help myself

Unread postby bgreen » Wed Jul 26, 2017 7:50 am

Nomastomas,

nomastomas wrote:Rail thickness....more than one way to skin a cat. Hint: Not all volume needs to be removed from deck to achieve desired rail profile. The G5 is coming....


So are you thinking deep concaves, some sort of creative rail line or something else?

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Re: Can't help myself

Unread postby nomastomas » Wed Jul 26, 2017 12:48 pm

I hope to get the G5 prototype blank from Marko this week or next week, at the latest. I'll post some photos in a separate thread. But, one lesson here is that the shaper (amateur or pro) must always consider the shape as a whole, noting how all of the design features inter-relate. Pes' statement that he needs to "figure out" how to reconcile a thin rail shape with high overall board volume demonstrates this thought process. He's got it...
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Re: Can't help myself

Unread postby bgreen » Wed Jul 26, 2017 5:05 pm

I don't know about Pes, but the added criteria is not having much thickness up front. I can see how a more even foil would allow more readily for volume increase.

I look forward to the new thread.
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Re: Can't help myself

Unread postby Pes78 » Wed Jul 26, 2017 7:45 pm

I think I need to do this again.

download/file.php?id=2076&mode=view

Having trouble uploading at the "office"

Looks like going a bit wider will help get my rail profile a bit better because I tend to do too much in a short amount of space. Looking using a Marko wake skate blank on the next one. Going to have to wait a bit to do it though, if I can control myself. :roll:
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Re: Can't help myself

Unread postby nomastomas » Wed Jul 26, 2017 8:04 pm

Hadn't seen the Wake Skate blank before. Great for our purposes. Nice rockers and nice thickness. Very close tolerance...just take off a little here and a little there. I like shaping the 2lb stuff, its my goto density for EPS. Finishes pretty nice. Do you know how much crown there is in the deck of the blank? Or, how thick the rails are, say, 2" in from the outline? I put most of my thickness out there, so it would be good to know.
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Re: Can't help myself

Unread postby Pes78 » Wed Jul 26, 2017 10:56 pm

I emailed them this afternoon, waiting to here back.
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Re: Can't help myself

Unread postby Pes78 » Thu Jul 27, 2017 3:43 pm

Nomas here is their email back to me. On their Instagram there are a couple of posts with the blanks






Hi Paul,

It is a sled cut style blank with a flat deck and square rails but it is still a form molded blank. We have both a thick and regular version of the blank so if you wanted a closer tolerance the regular is the one I would suggest. We can do a custom rocker as well as long as its not to radically different from what the natural rocker is.
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Re: Can't help myself

Unread postby nomastomas » Fri Aug 11, 2017 5:47 pm

Marko now has a 3D viewer so you can see the blank from any angle https://markofoamblanks.com/collections ... rf-regular
Looks like the "Wake Skate" blank is the same thickness out to the rail, which would make pretty it versatile, allowing either a crowned deck, flat or concave. Pretty cool for our purposes.
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Re: Can't help myself

Unread postby Pes78 » Fri Aug 11, 2017 11:41 pm

I like that feature, now you could actually "see" the blank.
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Re: Can't help myself

Unread postby Pes78 » Sun Aug 13, 2017 11:27 pm

Ordering a blank tomorrow. Instead of shaping in one day, I'm going to take two weekends to shape the board. Take my time doing it rough out the blank first weekend and finish it up the following weekend.
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