Rails
Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 1:29 am
I'm new here, but have been reading this forum off and on for several years. As an admirer of a lot of yall and your boards (esp. Mr Mike), I have decided to take the plunge and make some myself.
Presently, I am working on 6-8 designs in parallel (not ideal, but I live 3 hours from the beach and it's winter), each of a different shape. Some I've started, others are just planks. Of those, 5 are 4' long and 1 is 6' x 12" (want to try another couple 6' but can't find wood over "12 inch" and not made of sectioned wood). I have rounded and pointed noses and mostly square tails. As I am using hardware-store planks of pine and poplar or these, that kinda dictates the dimensions of the blanks (48 x 11.25 x .75, or so forth) I am planning to also try some ply ones eventually.
The shapes are primarily based on what I have seen on-line and in books of the ones in the Bishop Museum Collection, though some is "made-up" meaning adopted from stuff I've seen somewhere even if I can't remember the source. Three are presently roughed out and three more are going to be when I get warm weather. I don't have a work shop, so stuff is done on my front (covered) or back (not covered) porch . . . (The wide HATES me cutting or sanding in the den, kitchen, or a bedroom-> no idea why )
Anyways, what I am having the biggest issue with the rail shapes. The pictures aren't real clear on the Bishop ones, which I'd like to emulate, as I believe the Hawaiians were experts at practical hydrodymanics.
What did those have?
What rail shapes work well and what are the pros and cons?
I am looking mainly into::
The "Hot Curl"/Boogie Board \_______/
The traditional longboard soft/egg (____________)
the sharp cornered [___________]
A rounded corner [____________]
And maybe the "blade" edge <__________>
What is the actual effect of each on a paipo?
The bottoms I am trying are flat (easiest, as is little work involved and theoretically clean), concave, and convex. I'll try a couple back-to-back and see which I like best for me.
A number of the paipo I've seen have flat bottoms and fairly [________] sides. Does that actually work well finless?
My own usage will be on the coasts of South Carolina, which are mostly short-choppy, shorebreak waves with the occasional one where you can bodysurf boardlessly. (I used to only body surf, having learned how in Kona-esp. Disappearing Sand Beach, but the waves here make that more frustrating than fun unless the conditions are just right. Anyways, I only started actually USING boards at all in the last few years and am OK with the foam/plastic ones, but would like wood ones I make myself . . .
Presently, I am working on 6-8 designs in parallel (not ideal, but I live 3 hours from the beach and it's winter), each of a different shape. Some I've started, others are just planks. Of those, 5 are 4' long and 1 is 6' x 12" (want to try another couple 6' but can't find wood over "12 inch" and not made of sectioned wood). I have rounded and pointed noses and mostly square tails. As I am using hardware-store planks of pine and poplar or these, that kinda dictates the dimensions of the blanks (48 x 11.25 x .75, or so forth) I am planning to also try some ply ones eventually.
The shapes are primarily based on what I have seen on-line and in books of the ones in the Bishop Museum Collection, though some is "made-up" meaning adopted from stuff I've seen somewhere even if I can't remember the source. Three are presently roughed out and three more are going to be when I get warm weather. I don't have a work shop, so stuff is done on my front (covered) or back (not covered) porch . . . (The wide HATES me cutting or sanding in the den, kitchen, or a bedroom-> no idea why )
Anyways, what I am having the biggest issue with the rail shapes. The pictures aren't real clear on the Bishop ones, which I'd like to emulate, as I believe the Hawaiians were experts at practical hydrodymanics.
What did those have?
What rail shapes work well and what are the pros and cons?
I am looking mainly into::
The "Hot Curl"/Boogie Board \_______/
The traditional longboard soft/egg (____________)
the sharp cornered [___________]
A rounded corner [____________]
And maybe the "blade" edge <__________>
What is the actual effect of each on a paipo?
The bottoms I am trying are flat (easiest, as is little work involved and theoretically clean), concave, and convex. I'll try a couple back-to-back and see which I like best for me.
A number of the paipo I've seen have flat bottoms and fairly [________] sides. Does that actually work well finless?
My own usage will be on the coasts of South Carolina, which are mostly short-choppy, shorebreak waves with the occasional one where you can bodysurf boardlessly. (I used to only body surf, having learned how in Kona-esp. Disappearing Sand Beach, but the waves here make that more frustrating than fun unless the conditions are just right. Anyways, I only started actually USING boards at all in the last few years and am OK with the foam/plastic ones, but would like wood ones I make myself . . .