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Unread postby zensuni » Mon Oct 31, 2016 12:12 pm

I occasionally ride a finless plywood paipo in small waves. It works great, but when waves are bigger, I don't use it since I am concerned about my safety. Plywood is hard and I experienced it twice already. I think the leash may be what caused the board to hit my head, but if I don't use leash then it starts to be dangerous for the others. When it is too big for the plywood paipo, I use a surfmat, which is fun and quite interesting to ride, but duckdiving is so much easier with a paipo... So, I am looking for a fiberglass paipo. There is no paipo in France as far as I know, so it is quite a quest to find one. On the french equivalent of Craig's list I found a second hand HPD XL. I visited the HPD website, I googled HPD paipos, but I found a very few videos of them in action. Their guitar pick shape intrigues me. Are they really fast ? Isn't the large tail cumbersome ?
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Re: Need feedbacks on the HPD XL

Unread postby bgreen » Mon Oct 31, 2016 3:43 pm

The HPD is still a hard object. It is an established design that has been ridden in large Hawaiian surf. Under paipo interviews look for Paul Lindbergh, Sean Ross, especially and Jim Growney, but there are quite a few historical interviews which show these boards. For some historical footage of Jim and John Waidelich and friends - see https://vimeo.com/9742493
Some people love them, some don't. You just have to put the time in and surf them in better waves - ideally something with a peak to launch from. Kage and Paipo Jim are two guys on this forum, that I know of, who have ridden this design over the years.

Hard to tell why the board hit your head - you could look into a Gath helmet if you're concerned about injuring your head.

I know a French shaper who might make you a fibreglass board.

They can be fast, the tail is the planning area and the wings act as fins
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Re: Need feedbacks on the HPD XL

Unread postby rodndtube » Mon Oct 31, 2016 5:17 pm

Not sure about the leash you were using... they come in many sizes (lengths) and a couple of different styles (coiled and straight). Maybe try a leash a couple of feet longer. Personally, I don't use the coil leashes as they tend to be shorter and pop back harder (during those rare wipe outs, ha ha).
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Re: Need feedbacks on the HPD XL

Unread postby OG-AZN » Mon Oct 31, 2016 10:41 pm

Like other people said, you'll gain nothing safety wise with a HPD. They are just as hard as plywood and will probably snap back at you just as hard if you put a leash on one. I've never surfed any "traditional" paipo with a leash. I think it's dangerous. You must be surfing really crowded conditions to fear endangering other people when you lose your board. Neutrally buoyant boards tend not to travel as far in when you lose them as compared to surfboard, boogie, or mat.

I don't think the HPD does well in small beachbreak or any kind of closeout surf either. However, if you can get the one for sale in your region at a good price, you should grab it. If you're looking at paying a high price, you should think about getting a wood paipo made of paulownia or similar light wood instead. The weight difference between paulownia and plywood is pretty dramatic.
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Re: Need feedbacks on the HPD XL

Unread postby bgreen » Tue Nov 01, 2016 7:37 am

Zensuni,

The other thing I forgot to mention is that a fibreglass board will hit you harder than your average ply/wood bellyboard.

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Re: Need feedbacks on the HPD XL

Unread postby GeoffreyLevens » Tue Nov 01, 2016 10:04 am

The actual HPD company has newer model that is not guitar pick shaped. Having ridden a guitar pick plywood board a few times, I do not really like the outline though to be fair, it could have been just that the board overall was much too big for me. Anyway, check it out

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Re: Need feedbacks on the HPD XL

Unread postby zensuni » Tue Nov 01, 2016 6:10 pm

I thought that a fiberglass board would be less dangerous, seems like I was wrong. In this case I don't have any good reason to buy it. Will be cheaper to keep the plywood board and to buy a Gath helmet and a long surf leash :) On small days it is sometimes so crowded that the helmet would also help to prevent from being injured by other rider's board anyway. Again, I am happy with how the plywood board works. Didn't know either that pawlonia was lighter than plywood, might be a good solution, although I have no idea of where I can find that kind of wood. Thanks for your replies.
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Re: Need feedbacks on the HPD XL

Unread postby Junkman » Wed Nov 02, 2016 2:00 am

I've ridden HPD boards for the last few years, and I'd recommend giving it a go.

I don't wear a leash and the only times I've been hit by the board is from pulling in to a closeout section. But regardless of the situation, if I do become separated from the board I protect my dome because, as I'm sure you know, you do not want to catch that rail in your skull. And per og-azn's post - the board tends to not travel very far without you on it. But not every time.

The HPD shape requires some getting used to. You direct it from the tail, like bgreen said. Infact, you really have to crank the rail to get it turning. If you just lean over to turn, you'll find yourself in a kind of slow-motion flat spin while the wave runs away from you.

Another thing about the HPD board is that its a runner. Loves to run. Give her a nice open face and she'll take off.

On second thought, you shouldn't get the HPD board because I want to get it. Wait, nevermind, you're too far away and they'll bleed me on the shipping costs. You should get it instead.

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Re: Need feedbacks on the HPD XL

Unread postby zensuni » Wed Nov 02, 2016 4:16 am

Junkman wrote: You direct it from the tail


Do you mean it is a little bit like a bodyboard, where you really have to slice the wave's face to turn ?

Also, I'm quite short, 5,5 foot, I am concerned about the board (especially this XL model) being just too big for me.
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Re: Need feedbacks on the HPD XL

Unread postby bgreen » Wed Nov 02, 2016 5:50 am

How much is the board? If it isn't too expensive you don't have a lot to lose. Don't worry about the size, XL dimensions are: 30 inches wide at the widest point, and 40 inches from nose to tail.

In terms of paulownia boards, these guys aren't far from you: http://www.surf-longboard.com/info-wege ... boards.htm

Then there is these guys: https://surfeuropemag.com/features/shap ... -wood.html
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Re: Need feedbacks on the HPD XL

Unread postby zensuni » Wed Nov 02, 2016 11:59 am

Bob, the board would cost me 360 dollars, shipment included. Still cheaper than if I bought a new one, if I take in account the shipment price it would cost from Hawaii. But I noticed that this board doesn't have a leash plug, so I definitely won't by it. Regarding paulownia , is it lighter than balsa ? Balsa seems to be a lot easier to find.
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Re: Need feedbacks on the HPD XL

Unread postby Uncle Grumpy » Wed Nov 02, 2016 3:29 pm

Paulownia is close to the weight of female balsa and lighter than male balsa and doesn't readily absorb water like balsa as well.
IMO it's worth the effort to find.
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Re: Need feedbacks on the HPD XL

Unread postby krusher74 » Wed Nov 02, 2016 4:29 pm

Junkman wrote:I've ridden HPD boards for the last few years, and I'd recommend giving it a go.

I don't wear a leash and the only times I've been hit by the board is from pulling in to a closeout section. But regardless of the situation, if I do become separated from the board I protect my dome because, as I'm sure you know, you do not want to catch that rail in your skull. And per og-azn's post - the board tends to not travel very far without you on it. But not every time.

The HPD shape requires some getting used to. You direct it from the tail, like bgreen said. Infact, you really have to crank the rail to get it turning. If you just lean over to turn, you'll find yourself in a kind of slow-motion flat spin while the wave runs away from you.

Another thing about the HPD board is that its a runner. Loves to run. Give her a nice open face and she'll take off.

On second thought, you shouldn't get the HPD board because I want to get it. Wait, nevermind, you're too far away and they'll bleed me on the shipping costs. You should get it instead.

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you can get paulowina from spain http://woodensurfboards.blogspot.co.uk/ ... spain.html


http://wood-alaia-surf.paulownia.ws/

65euro for a 30mm thick blank you could get a 42" by 18" paipo from thats pretty cheap. (they also do custom sizes) couple of hours of shaping and you surfing!

here is the one i made viewtopic.php?f=4&t=687
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Re: Need feedbacks on the HPD XL

Unread postby Junkman » Wed Nov 02, 2016 5:13 pm

zensuni wrote:Do you mean it is a little bit like a bodyboard, where you really have to slice the wave's face to turn ?

Also, I'm quite short, 5,5 foot, I am concerned about the board (especially this XL model) being just too big for me.


I can't speak to a comparison to the bodyboard/sponge because I never really used a bodyboard.

I'm 5'10 and actually prefer the Monster to the XL as it is 8" longer than the XL (gets my knees out of the water while going down the line). That said, I don't think the XL would be too much board for you.
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Re: Need feedbacks on the HPD XL

Unread postby krusher74 » Wed Nov 02, 2016 6:36 pm

bgreen wrote:How much is the board? If it isn't too expensive you don't have a lot to lose. Don't worry about the size, XL dimensions are: 30 inches wide at the widest point, and 40 inches from nose to tail.

In terms of paulownia boards, these guys aren't far from you: http://www.surf-longboard.com/info-wege ... boards.htm

Then there is these guys: https://surfeuropemag.com/features/shap ... -wood.html


Interesting to see the wegener paipos all sold for 360euro ($400us) :o A blank to make one of them would cost me less than $100, and they take less than 2 hours to shape :?

Bodyboarders start crying if there boards approach half that cost.

compared to a tomos T4, or a california sufcraft they seem very expensive, I guess you have your money and take your choice. ;)
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Re: Need feedbacks on the HPD XL

Unread postby zensuni » Thu Nov 03, 2016 12:26 am

krusher74 , thanks for the link, it is indeed quite cheap and I think I could give it a shot.
I like their Preformed Bodyboard blank where the rocker and the concave are already there, I m not a great shaper myself so it would be easier for me.
What kind of leash do you use on your paulownia board ?
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Re: Need feedbacks on the HPD XL

Unread postby krusher74 » Thu Nov 03, 2016 3:42 am

zensuni wrote:krusher74 , thanks for the link, it is indeed quite cheap and I think I could give it a shot.
I like their Preformed Bodyboard blank where the rocker and the concave are already there, I m not a great shaper myself so it would be easier for me.
What kind of leash do you use on your paulownia board ?



I use any standard bodyboard bicep leash , but I prefer this https://www.toobs.com/shop/factory/leas ... bicep-pro/ as it has a velcro attachment rather than tied on so easy to take on and off.
In 2ft and under i dont use a leash. but in 23 years surfing I have only been hit by the board less than 10 times, I think over the years you learn how to fall and know where it is. I also think the leash being attached to your lower bicep is much better as with a wrist leash you tend to pull on it with you arm when you fall off possibly dragging it back at yourself fast.
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Re: Need feedbacks on the HPD XL

Unread postby bgreen » Thu Nov 03, 2016 6:38 am

zensuni wrote: But I noticed that this board doesn't have a leash plug, so I definitely won't by it.


You can buy a EZ-Plug and glue it on. There might be a local equivalent.

#360 isn't cheap but freight from Hawaii would be a killer, as I've found out the hard way.

Junkman, where do you usually surf?
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Re: Need feedbacks on the HPD XL

Unread postby rodndtube » Thu Nov 03, 2016 11:18 am

krusher74 wrote:
zensuni wrote:krusher74 , thanks for the link, it is indeed quite cheap and I think I could give it a shot.
I like their Preformed Bodyboard blank where the rocker and the concave are already there, I m not a great shaper myself so it would be easier for me.
What kind of leash do you use on your paulownia board ?


I use any standard bodyboard bicep leash , but I prefer this https://www.toobs.com/shop/factory/leas ... bicep-pro/ as it has a velcro attachment rather than tied on so easy to take on and off.
In 2ft and under i dont use a leash. but in 23 years surfing I have only been hit by the board less than 10 times, I think over the years you learn how to fall and know where it is. I also think the leash being attached to your lower bicep is much better as with a wrist leash you tend to pull on it with you arm when you fall off possibly dragging it back at yourself fast.


I use a surfboard leash strapped around my wrist (5 or 6 ft. leash depending upon surf size). Having it around the wrist does make retrieval easier, but the only dangers of a wrist leash is having too short leash of 3 to 4 ft (in head+ surf) which can snaps back quickly. This is more consequential for a hard board than a boogie/body board. Many of the coil leashes are shorter than velcro strap surfboard leashes (light & soft boogie/body board hitting you is not so consequential).
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Re: Need feedbacks on the HPD XL

Unread postby krusher74 » Thu Nov 03, 2016 7:42 pm

rodndtube wrote:
krusher74 wrote:
zensuni wrote:krusher74 , thanks for the link, it is indeed quite cheap and I think I could give it a shot.
I like their Preformed Bodyboard blank where the rocker and the concave are already there, I m not a great shaper myself so it would be easier for me.
What kind of leash do you use on your paulownia board ?


I use any standard bodyboard bicep leash , but I prefer this https://www.toobs.com/shop/factory/leas ... bicep-pro/ as it has a velcro attachment rather than tied on so easy to take on and off.
In 2ft and under i dont use a leash. but in 23 years surfing I have only been hit by the board less than 10 times, I think over the years you learn how to fall and know where it is. I also think the leash being attached to your lower bicep is much better as with a wrist leash you tend to pull on it with you arm when you fall off possibly dragging it back at yourself fast.


I use a surfboard leash strapped around my wrist (5 or 6 ft. leash depending upon surf size). Having it around the wrist does make retrieval easier, but the only dangers of a wrist leash is having too short leash of 3 to 4 ft (in head+ surf) which can snaps back quickly. This is more consequential for a hard board than a boogie/body board. Many of the coil leashes are shorter than velcro strap surfboard leashes (light & soft boogie/body board hitting you is not so consequential).


I guess you just get used to a 6ft leash attached to your wrist, seem like an unneeded handycap to me. Are you guys getting hit by your board a lot? happens to me less than once a year and that surfing over 100 times a year. Here is a good video of the benefits of the bicep leash https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZO9aIOvxyd8
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Re: Need feedbacks on the HPD XL

Unread postby rodndtube » Thu Nov 03, 2016 7:54 pm

Like I mentioned, a bicep might be fine for a soft board, not that is way to close for a hard board snap-back. I don't get hit often (of course, I am using a quality 5 or 6 ft. leash!), but the last time I was using a 4 ft. leash, it snapped back on me after doing a Hawaiian pull-out (aka a duck dive pullout) through a wave (in Hawaii, no pun intended). The five stitches was no fun and ended a really nice session at Laniakea.

The longer leashes (6 ft) don't bother me but really come in handy at a few spots I ride on those larger days where a 4 ft. leash would just kill me.
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Re: Need feedbacks on the HPD XL

Unread postby Junkman » Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:13 pm

bgreen wrote:Junkman, where do you usually surf?


It really depends on the conditions/direction of the swell & wind. Oh, and my family & work obligations.

Don't want to broadcast specific locations, but I'd be happy to talk with you via PM - give me a shout.
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Re: Need feedbacks on the HPD XL

Unread postby bgreen » Fri Nov 04, 2016 4:21 am

Junkman,

I'll send a pm in a couple of minutes.

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Re: Need feedbacks on the HPD XL

Unread postby zensuni » Fri Nov 04, 2016 10:21 am

In a wipe out, is it better to hang on the board until the waves rips it from your hand or is it better to let it go and keep focusing on protecting the head ?
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Unread postby rodndtube » Fri Nov 04, 2016 10:33 am

It is also a responsibility to not harm others around you.
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Re: Need feedbacks on the HPD XL

Unread postby krusher74 » Fri Nov 04, 2016 10:46 am

zensuni wrote:In a wipe out, is it better to hang on the board until the waves rips it from your hand or is it better to let it go and keep focusing on protecting the head ?
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Hold on to it, the longer you keep doing this the better you will become at anticipating whats happening in that moment and learn how to move the board so you dont loose it at all. As you get better you can anticipate when a wave might close out or your going to fall and in that spilt second kick out/cut into the wave face/pull straight to minimise impact and the ammount the wave is hitting you.
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Re: Need feedbacks on the HPD XL

Unread postby kage » Mon Nov 07, 2016 12:51 pm

This may be a bit late, hope your board is still available. I ride HPDs about 90% of the time and like them a lot (obvs). I'm 5'6" and rode the XL for about 10 years and then switched to the mini. I like it better but I would recommend the XL too. I use a leash, no need to get into that issue here, but the difference between a leash on a plywood or HPD I think is probably minimal. As far as specific conditions (closeout, beachbreak, whatever) I think the rider has a lot more to do with the kind of waves they like to ride than the board. As long as I'm being contradictory I might as well add that I don't ride the HPD exclusively from the back. The takeoff is from wayyyy back and then shoot the board back up under your stomach. Key for me is keeping the location of the board very flexible from hanging over the front to kicking from the back. :D
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Re: Need feedbacks on the HPD XL

Unread postby Papa Paepo o » Wed Nov 16, 2016 11:53 pm

I do shape Hawaiian Papa Paepo`o Boards,
These are some of my boards, getting ready for the Makaha Paipo Contest.
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I also make these personal boards:
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No leash is needed, just gottah` find youself on any kind of wood board then you can ride like this...
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Let me know, you can find me on youtube, FB, IG... aloha...
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Re: Need feedbacks on the HPD XL

Unread postby Papa Paepo o » Thu Nov 17, 2016 12:12 am

kage wrote:This may be a bit late, hope your board is still available. I ride HPDs about 90% of the time and like them a lot (obvs). I'm 5'6" and rode the XL for about 10 years and then switched to the mini. I like it better but I would recommend the XL too. I use a leash, no need to get into that issue here, but the difference between a leash on a plywood or HPD I think is probably minimal. As far as specific conditions (closeout, beachbreak, whatever) I think the rider has a lot more to do with the kind of waves they like to ride than the board. As long as I'm being contradictory I might as well add that I don't ride the HPD exclusively from the back. The takeoff is from wayyyy back and then shoot the board back up under your stomach. Key for me is keeping the location of the board very flexible from hanging over the front to kicking from the back. :D


HPD boards or any "spoon-shapes" wood boards when taking off left or right, all you got to do is shift your tail out. Meaning if your going right, your right tail (meaning bottom-right) would be between your cruch, as going left you do the same left tail between legs. Depends on the width and legth of your board, wider and longer boards you need to add your inside knee. Exambles ...
Here's one of my heavy & wider board 3/4" thick x 48' lgth.x 3"nose x 36" tail :
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Angle your board when taking the drop, shifting your board left or right of directions, once your clear of drop slide the board under your body and track that face of water.....

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Re: Need feedbacks on the HPD XL

Unread postby paolomorgia » Fri Nov 18, 2016 9:57 pm

Hello!

I have bought and surfed a XP model but only in small (2-3 ft) waves.

Very fast board but not easy to use.

I used a leash because I was surfing a reef and I was hit by the board on my head.

My impression: needs very large waves, DO NOT USE A LEASH, VERY DANGEROUS
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Re: Need feedbacks on the HPD XL

Unread postby bgreen » Sat Nov 19, 2016 1:57 pm

I don't think you specifically need large waves, ideally you need some power. I found mine hard to ride on a thin walled type of wave.

I didn't find a leash dangerous, perhaps where it was fitted and the type of leash contributed. Most people I know that ride this style of board don't use a leash.

I think it takes time to really be able to learn the potential of the design.
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Re: Need feedbacks on the HPD XL

Unread postby zensuni » Sun Nov 20, 2016 11:44 am

I received the board, I m impressed by the width :lol:
As expected it doesn t have a leash plug.
Do you think that gluing a classic surf leash plug would work ?
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Re: Need feedbacks on the HPD XL

Unread postby GeoffreyLevens » Sun Nov 20, 2016 12:44 pm

Don't these boards behave a lot like plywood when you lose them in that they rarely if ever get carried very far by the wave, popping back up right near you?
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Re: Need feedbacks on the HPD XL

Unread postby rodndtube » Sun Nov 20, 2016 7:39 pm

My guess is that the board has a rubber deck pad? Some do and some do not. Also, you might want to inquire with HPD to find out what kind of materials are used and whether it is advised or not to drill a hole. You don't want to drill through and have some water sucking material in the composite.
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Re: Need feedbacks on the HPD XL

Unread postby Papa Paepo o » Sun Nov 20, 2016 10:02 pm

zensuni wrote:I received the board, I m impressed by the width :lol:
As expected it doesn t have a leash plug.
Do you think that gluing a classic surf leash plug would work ?


Aloha, adding a leash-plug would have to be a custom made plug. The smallest (thickness) surf plug is 1/2" thick, how thick is your board?
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Re: Need feedbacks on the HPD XL

Unread postby Papa Paepo o » Sun Nov 20, 2016 10:25 pm

You got the message, using a leash will cause pull-over or drag under with the white wash. Just keep on riding your board, try using a nose pevit into the face, meaning shallow breaks try lifting outter rail n nose diving along the bottom face of the wave. To deep of a dive will hit the reef, got to do it gradually on size of waves.
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Re: Need feedbacks on the HPD XL

Unread postby Papa Paepo o » Sun Nov 20, 2016 10:50 pm

zensuni wrote:
Junkman wrote: You direct it from the tail


Do you mean it is a little bit like a bodyboard, where you really have to slice the wave's face to turn ?

Also, I'm quite short, 5,5 foot, I am concerned about the board (especially this XL model) being just too big for me.



Aloha, I have two XL HPD boards it's really light do to "composite material used", their great for steep take off but there's a theory behind it. when using a wider-tail, the trick is you need to slide the tail of the board left or right of what ever direction your heading. If your heading " rights" your right-side tail will be under your left hip, holding your board at one o'Clock and 7 o'Clock once your ready to head straight then you slide the board under you. It's what I called a "Stall" as you taking a drop down the face of a wave. Since I've now shape my own wood board I use multiple maneuvers with old style and my own maneuvers to help me taking any size surf.
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Re: Need feedbacks on the HPD XL

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Re: Need feedbacks on the HPD XL

Unread postby Junkman » Mon Nov 21, 2016 4:14 pm

[quote="Papa Paepo o"]I do shape Hawaiian Papa Paepo`o Boards,

Papa Paepo o - Great looking boards. Do you put any spoon or lift in the nose? Are your boards glassed?
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Re: Need feedbacks on the HPD XL

Unread postby Papa Paepo o » Mon Nov 21, 2016 10:07 pm

Aloha,
Mahalo, I'm not doing spoon boards just yet but I am working on the mould for couple of sizes. The boards that you see does have a nose-rocker with a nose contour for riders. I used to ride those type of boards before but now I just ride flat bottom. The photo you see there is a flat-bottom board, the board is shape to the persons body size that will give you an easy menauverbility which you can either do cut-back, drops, spinners, stalls or my favorite under-water take-off with a spinner or two.
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Re: Need feedbacks on the HPD XL

Unread postby Papa Paepo o » Mon Nov 21, 2016 10:10 pm

Papa Paepo o wrote:Aloha,
Mahalo, I'm not doing spoon boards just yet but I am working on the mould for couple of sizes. The boards that you see does have a nose-rocker with a nose contour for riders. I used to ride those type of boards before but now I just ride flat bottom. The photo you see there is a flat-bottom board, the board is shape to the persons body size that will give you an easy menauverbility which you can either do cut-back, drops, spinners, stalls or my favorite under-water take-off with a spinner or two.

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Re: Need feedbacks on the HPD XL

Unread postby Junkman » Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:11 pm

GeoffreyLevens wrote:Don't these boards behave a lot like plywood when you lose them in that they rarely if ever get carried very far by the wave, popping back up right near you?


The board generally stay pretty close if you get separated. There are exceptions, but at least you have on fins!
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Re: Need feedbacks on the HPD XL

Unread postby Papa Paepo o » Wed Nov 23, 2016 1:26 am

Junkman wrote:
GeoffreyLevens wrote:Don't these boards behave a lot like plywood when you lose them in that they rarely if ever get carried very far by the wave, popping back up right near you?


The board generally stay pretty close if you get separated. There are exceptions, but at least you have on fins!


First you need to know your board, really!!! What size wave your catching, how it respond to your body movements. Where to be on n where not to be. If I did loose my board it would be because I was to much up front or an insane drop. You have to know how far your board can take you n learn what not to do. Fins are just to help you swim, take off and steer. These board I shape is couple inches wider than your body. As a professional bodysurfer I'm able to do what a bodysurfer, skinboarder, surfer n skateboarder do but on the wave. I have a young man name Keali'i at the age of 16 n he rides my 48" at waikikk walls but stands up n surf it. Wood board needs the weight behind everything you want to do.
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Re: Need feedbacks on the HPD XL

Unread postby zensuni » Sat Nov 26, 2016 2:01 pm

I wanted to test the board Today, unfortunately it was very small, here is the longest wave I had:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysItAYkQ6ww

So I couldn't really test the board in normal conditions, but I can tell that this board makes tiny waves very easy to catch.
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Re: Need feedbacks on the HPD XL

Unread postby Papa Paepo o » Sat Nov 26, 2016 6:49 pm

zensuni wrote:I wanted to test the board Today, unfortunately it was very small, here is the longest wave I had:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysItAYkQ6ww

So I couldn't really test the board in normal conditions, but I can tell that this board makes tiny waves very easy to catch.


Nice board, cool fun wave too. I couldn't but notice going left i seen white water sprays shooting from the left front? It shows that your body is on the rightside n not the left side of the board. I'm pretty sure you can go pretty far on those kind of waves. I know I can. Because the board has a wider bottom, gottah' lean on the inside and watch the sprays shoot behind you n not in front. There's a certain ways of holding your for a take off. While floating, pull the board towards your chest, once board contact chesty where your arms reach and hands are (grip on both edge). That's your body placement, chest will be on that imaginary line. When ur heading rights, have your right side of your body on that right edge of the board, i call that "slicing. Causing sprays shooting out on your left side which looks very cool. Let me know how you did. Aloha.
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Re: Need feedbacks on the HPD XL

Unread postby zensuni » Sun Nov 27, 2016 4:25 am

Papa Paepo o wrote:
zensuni wrote:I wanted to test the board Today, unfortunately it was very small, here is the longest wave I had:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysItAYkQ6ww

So I couldn't really test the board in normal conditions, but I can tell that this board makes tiny waves very easy to catch.


Nice board, cool fun wave too. I couldn't but notice going left i seen white water sprays shooting from the left front? It shows that your body is on the rightside n not the left side of the board. I'm pretty sure you can go pretty far on those kind of waves. I know I can. Because the board has a wider bottom, gottah' lean on the inside and watch the sprays shoot behind you n not in front. There's a certain ways of holding your for a take off. While floating, pull the board towards your chest, once board contact chesty where your arms reach and hands are (grip on both edge). That's your body placement, chest will be on that imaginary line. When ur heading rights, have your right side of your body on that right edge of the board, i call that "slicing. Causing sprays shooting out on your left side which looks very cool. Let me know how you did. Aloha.


Thanks, hard to explain in English, but the wave was so small that I couldn t use leverage to turn, sometime I had to lean right to give the wave some surface to push the board. I guess I need a little bigger wave to turn clean.
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Re: Need feedbacks on the HPD XL

Unread postby zensuni » Sun Dec 11, 2016 8:12 am

I had another HPD XL test session yesterday. It was quite mushy and choppy, the waves were not that small but still a little weak so most of the take offs were late. I focused on bottom turning, I found it not that easy with such a wide board. The rocker definitely prevented pearling at times. I am looking forward to try this board on cleaner conditions. I used a wrist gopro to take some rear view videos: https://youtu.be/wnFCqUoeZ2U
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Re: Need feedbacks on the HPD XL

Unread postby paolomorgia » Sun Jan 08, 2017 1:00 pm

I have used it few times in medium surf...very heavy...leash is dangerous for you.
I had my head hit...

The board is very fast
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Re: Need feedbacks on the HPD XL

Unread postby rodndtube » Sun Jan 08, 2017 2:15 pm

PaipoJim has a couple of good photos of an HPD in Northern Oregon waves -- maybe he can repost them. Not sure he and his buddy, Andy, do bottom turns much or now or just angle and scream across the face.

A leash can be okay but you may need a longer one than is typically used on a bodyboard.
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Re: Need feedbacks on the HPD XL

Unread postby zensuni » Sat Feb 04, 2017 7:29 am

Haven't used it for a while now. I like it under specific conditions. It needs to be clean, not choppy, not too big, and not crowded since my board doesn t have a leash. Some winter mornings are like that.
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