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Unread post by bgreen » Sun Feb 11, 2018 7:08 am

Here is a refinement of board Number5 in the Goddard inspired boards. More volume overall, more volume up front and less deck scoop. The rails are harder than the other board.

So far it's only been ridden finless, but tube rides well. I haven't ridden it in bigger waves but so far it's done what I wanted of it.
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Unread post by jbw4600 » Thu Feb 15, 2018 12:42 am

What are the dimensions? What is your height and weight?

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Unread post by bgreen » Thu Feb 15, 2018 4:41 am

Board dimensions are approximate as it was cut from the same AKU template as the last 2 boards and then hand shaped.
53.75" x 21" x 1.9" . My dimensions 5'10" x 83 kg (which I think is about 183lbs).

It has more thickness throughout and hence volume than my previous 2 boards.

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Unread post by jbw4600 » Thu Feb 15, 2018 11:26 pm

How do like the deep channels? I have been afraid to go too deep with the single concaves on my boards.

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Re: New board

Unread post by bgreen » Fri Feb 16, 2018 3:44 am

JBW,

I haven't fully tested this board, however, the last two boards on the initial posting of thread (light green board and the orange board)

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have been ridden in Indonesian tubes and decent sized waves in Ireland. The concaves are part of an overall design. I've only ridden the new board finless, the others I mix it up.

From my perspective these are functional designs. Krusher has seen the orange board in action and Global Ernie, the new board.

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Unread post by krusher74 » Sun Feb 25, 2018 6:54 am

looking good, very simple and sleek.

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Unread post by bgreen » Tue Feb 27, 2018 6:02 am

I'd love to be able to test it in those North Atlantic gems. Any progress with the move?

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Unread post by krusher74 » Wed Feb 28, 2018 12:37 pm

no, sales keep falling through, still moving though when i can buy.

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Unread post by bgreen » Wed Feb 28, 2018 4:39 pm

That's a bummer. Good luck.

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Re: New board

Unread post by krusher74 » Fri Mar 02, 2018 6:57 am

As your the guy who seems to be using both finned and non-finned the most. What are you finding from these explorations.

On the same board:

Whats are you finding are the pros and cons of riding them fin and finless?

And if you developed a new iteration of the board do you think the design would have to develop in two different directions to help finned and to help finless? :?

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Re: New board

Unread post by bgreen » Sat Mar 03, 2018 1:07 am

Krusher,

Last week-end I surfed the board in some reasonable waves.

I had two experiences which highlighted the limits of finless surfing - one was retrievable and no big deal the other was a wipeout.

In scenario one, I caught a hollow peak, got tubed and as I came out the wave got really full. The tail slid. I regained control but the wave was over. Dealing with transition was the issue - if I'd been quicker, I could possibly have adjusted my weight, but it all happened pretty quick.

Scenario 2 was at a solid pointbreak. The board was handling some steep drops and riding well. One bigger wave had a whitewater section. It caught me as I tried to get around it. In the foam there was no resistance and it was all over. A finned board would have been able to project around the whitewater, whereas I just lost speed in it.

No fin(s) mean less drag, but also less control. If you don't mind having less control and the occasional edge loss, this board rides great finless. One day I'll ride it with fins. This style of board has concaves, wings and some hard edges. There is the risk, fins may conflict with these features. I've ridden a flat bottom, low rocker version of this board and it is great finless. While it handled steep faces and drops it wasn't a tube rider.

Fins allow for tighter arcs in turns.

Your boards are shorter, so the dynamics will be different and you'll be more in-the-wave.

It's all a trade-off. My boards can be ridden both ways. The shaper likes the idea of finless boards so makes my boards with the idea of finless & finned in mind. At this stage I don't have any new ideas/thoughts about a future direction though I liked the look of these Friar Tuck kneeboards by Peter Ware.
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The idea of flex in the rails also has appeal, like the Peter Berry board I posted elsewhere.

Bob

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Re: New board

Unread post by krusher74 » Sun Mar 04, 2018 7:36 pm

If your board has a hardrail I would suggest sanding it off. I tried the finless hard edge and it was very easy the loose the rail. I knocked off the hard edge to a 1/8" round over and the grip that it then produced made a night and day hold difference. I only have a hard edge on the back of my boards.

What's the hull of the friar like?

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