Bodyboards discuss (the soft paipo)

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Unread post by nomastomas » Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:37 am

Great find, Keith...really interesting stuff. One of my early Boogies (maybe a "Comp" model?) was blue with the red and white layered rail. I didn't realize that was functional, only thought it was decorative. It was a major improvement over the first models which were super flexy. I added the twin keel fin kit to that board, and never went back to finless.
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Unread post by rodndtube » Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:53 am

Fascinating read.
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Unread post by Nels » Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:45 am

That was indeed a fun read. I interviewed down there at the Roosevelt St. factory back in that era, 1978 if I remember correctly. I was looking for some kind of sales thing, had the interview set up, made the long drive down from Ventura County for an 8 a.m. interview with Clark Cederval (sp?)...had to wait a bit while they wrapped up a sale of some Doyles to some Waikiki beach boy business. The main guy of the two looked like Rabbit Kekai but I remember the guy talking about sealing the deal so they could get on the golf course, so...???

Clark gave me the tour but told me that Morey and Doyle had gone to San Francisco the week before and sold the company. No job materialized. Kransco, however, did a really good job promoting the boards. They launched a period of very inclusive contests and beach days, and were very professional in their dealings with media. Good times.

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Unread post by CHRISPI » Fri Jul 06, 2018 4:12 pm

WOW very interesting top post

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Unread post by krusher74 » Sun Jul 15, 2018 9:01 am

So after bodyboards having very little changes in hull design since i have been riding them for 25 years there seems to be a "new design" on the block. I'm seems pretty much every board company (since most of them come out of the same factory) have added a quad channel to thier line up.

But interesting I have seen very little sales blurb as to what it can do for a ride. faster? turn harder?

So today I thought I would see what i could find. found this :shock:

QUAD CONCAVE

As for the newly introduced Quad Concave. Paralleled with its release we saw a series of convoluted words in explanation as to the physics behind the idea. Leaving even the best of us with clouded interpretations. Now, to put it simply, the inner two concaves’ run within the confines of the already implemented PFS3 system, once again aiding in maximising centred water flow. Additionally, having those extra inner concaves’ allows the rider to draw a higher line and exert more power into the bottom turn.
The outer concaves’ complimented by the PFS3 system draws water down the full length of the rail creating a focused and powerful bottom turn as the water passes the entire length of the board. The Quad Concave in terms of rail to rail surfing is perhaps the most powerful option to ever be ran as a stock board.

WI-FLY

The Wi-Fly tail actually cuts an entire inch off the full length of your extended rail. By cutting the tail back in a diagonal catch you’re cutting the length and effectively cutting any extra need for control. Although only an inch down you’re going to find a huge change in terms of control of the board. Bottom turning, carving and spinning is about to become a whole lot easier with a tail that releases with an inch less of grab

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Unread post by krusher74 » Tue Jul 17, 2018 1:53 pm

nice video showing if your gonna surf like this I dont think a hard board is an option :?

https://vimeo.com/280147307?ref=fb-share&1

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Unread post by Nels » Tue Jul 17, 2018 8:35 pm

That was a really nice video. It looked like some advanced use of legs and swimfins in some of the early waves that were large and critical. Maybe everybody does it. I've never seen any photos or footage of myself and things move fast in the water so who knows.

The guy made a comment about "getting inspiration from surfing"...that always bugs the crap out of me...for me it's ALL surfing. I've never seen it any other way but I give up on the general wave-riding public and culture.

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Unread post by nomastomas » Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:15 pm

Leg/fin dragging is a good example of drag applied in the service of control....The Waikiki beach boys use to drag their feet to initiate a turn on their skeg-less paddle boards, modern SUPers and surf kayakers drag their paddles for a similar reason.
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Unread post by GeoffreyLevens » Wed Jul 18, 2018 10:35 am

Beautiful camera work to me. Must admit I"m not a fan of the GoPro POV stuff, esp in tiny surf where you can't really seem much of anything. This though, made me happy just watching

Interesting wave I think at 4:24 where only contact points w/ board are hands and a very small area of his inside hip. Almost like giant handplane or something

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Unread post by krusher74 » Thu Jul 19, 2018 6:46 pm

GeoffreyLevens wrote:Beautiful camera work to me. Must admit I"m not a fan of the GoPro POV stuff, esp in tiny surf where you can't really seem much of anything. This though, made me happy just watching

Interesting wave I think at 4:24 where only contact points w/ board are hands and a very small area of his inside hip. Almost like giant handplane or something
Yeah i hate the gopro and it stupid mega wide angle, good for barrel stills but thats it.

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Unread post by zensuni » Mon Jul 30, 2018 11:22 am

Great video indeed, the power generated by these huge tubing waves seems so hard to handle on a skegless board, and yet he manages to do it.
In small waves one would slightly drag a flipper in the water to increase control, this guy in these powerfull waves drags the entire legs :lol:

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Re: Bodyboards discuss (the soft paipo)

Unread post by zensuni » Tue Aug 07, 2018 1:06 am

This board might be a fun soft paipo.
It is a soft top, it is finless, it has quite an alaia shape, could be a fun subtitute to an alaia when it is small.
The model is seaglass albacore.
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