PAIPO Foils.

What works and what doesn't. Share design ideas, references and contacts for paipo board builders.
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Re: PAIPO Foils.

Unread post by CHRISPI » Sat Aug 04, 2018 6:52 am

I have unfortunately lost my work shop. So I will not be shaping for some time. I am immigrating to the UK, unfortunately no more warm water surf to test in! or space to shape in

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Unread post by SURFFOILS » Sat Aug 04, 2018 7:18 am

Who would emigrate to the UK ?
I suspect Chrispis been kidnaped by the global foiling Illuminati keen to keep his breakthrough designs hidden from the world.
Hang in ther Chrispi, well send Chuck Norris to get you out !
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Re: PAIPO Foils.

Unread post by GeoffreyLevens » Sat Aug 04, 2018 9:56 am

SURFFOILS wrote:Who would emigrate to the UK ?
I would because....Black Pudding Bwa-ha-ha. Pure nasty on a plate

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Re: PAIPO Foils.

Unread post by SURFFOILS » Sun Aug 05, 2018 6:14 am

I have a surfer friend who moved from Sydney, AU to London for 10 years.
He returned and vowed never to return to London, the UK or have anything to do with English women.
2 years later he’s married to an English lass with a son and living in London. So there must be some attraction.
...but I still think Crispis been kidnaped.
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Re: PAIPO Foils.

Unread post by bgreen » Sun Aug 05, 2018 7:28 am

Besides the British museum, the other attraction is that it is close to Ireland.

Har to imagine that the creativity will stop.

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Unread post by SURFFOILS » Sun Aug 05, 2018 4:28 pm

My UK mate says that he gets over to France to surf at Lacanau where he says it’s amazing surf.
I’m sure we haven’t seen the last of Chrispi.
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Re: PAIPO Foils.

Unread post by CHRISPI » Mon Aug 06, 2018 6:18 am

I have a tiny shed to work in. I have never surfed in water colder than 19c, I think getting used a full wetsuit is going to be a problem. I see Keith spends most off of his surf time outside the UK. It is going to be a stressful life change

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Unread post by bgreen » Mon Aug 06, 2018 7:00 am

There are gems further south of Lacanau. A warmer weather escape for Chrispi.

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Unread post by Nels » Mon Aug 06, 2018 3:27 pm

RE Cold water and wetsuits...hahaha. Welcome to the club! BUT THERE IS GOOD NEWS!

Modern wetsuits are really, really good. They can be a bitch to put on due to the stretch, but once on a well-fitted suit will fit like a second skin. As other older surfers can attest, it wasn't always so. Before I got mine I asked on the old bodysurfing "newsgroup" about suits, and among the responses were a couple that said sometimes the suits didn't get completely wet inside. I aggressively challenged that on factual levels and also common sense, since wetsuits traditionally needed to trap water inside to work. But then I got one...and literally some bodysurfing sessions I could come in and find much of the inside chest area dry. Bodyboard or paipo and in anything under 4' most of the chest area stayed dry.

You need to try a couple of brands though as they don't all fit the same. Nothing worse than one that binds. I could never wear O'Neill in SoCal in the 70s-90's, chafed the crap out of my armpits. Some Body Glove suits worked back then, then Rip Curl into the 2000's. At that time Rip Curl didn't make a suit at any price that fit me but O'Neill had sizes that fit like a glove. Don't know a thing about what's available in the Uk.

The stretch is great but putting them on or taking off can be a strain. I may have already told the story, but it bears repeating. At a small concert a few years ago I overheard a 2-time rock and roll hall of fame guy and long-time surfer describe it to old friends from younger days like this: "By the time you get these new wetsuits on you're exhausted."

Where in the UK? I'e seen video online of all kinds of nice beach situations...

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Re: PAIPO Foils.

Unread post by CHRISPI » Mon Aug 06, 2018 4:08 pm

Wow Thanks that helps

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Unread post by CHRISPI » Mon Aug 06, 2018 4:11 pm

Unfortunately Scarborough

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Unread post by Nels » Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:48 pm

I just did a google search...at least there are some waves. Looks like fullsuits year round,get a good hood and wear that year round too to protect your ear canals, probably get booties as well.

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Unread post by SURFFOILS » Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:21 am

I can’t think a force of nature that would get me to move to a cold climate.
If my wife wanted to move to the UK, I’d let her go.
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Unread post by CHRISPI » Tue Aug 07, 2018 5:01 am

Run away crime. 69% of the youth unimploud, rapidly collapsing economy with rampant corruption. But a surf paradise

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Unread post by SURFFOILS » Tue Aug 07, 2018 5:27 am

Government corruption is the worse.

No chance of moving to France, or Portugal, or Hawaii or Australia as a last choice ?
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Re: PAIPO Foils.

Unread post by zensuni » Tue Aug 07, 2018 6:47 am

CHRISPI wrote:I have a tiny shed to work in. I have never surfed in water colder than 19c, I think getting used a full wetsuit is going to be a problem. I see Keith spends most off of his surf time outside the UK. It is going to be a stressful life change
I wouldn't worry too much about that, I wear a wetsuit all the year, during the winter the water drops down to 12°c at Lacanau where I surf, in the summer it might be 21°c max.
Honestly, wearing a wetsuit is not really a problem, I don't mind. I mean when it is really cold out there, you just love neopren, I have never eared about eskimos complaining about their fur coats :D .
In wintertime, with a good wetsuit / gloves / hood / socks combo you can have a 3 hours session in cold water, no problem. Plus the cold tends to keep away a lot of people from the water, so it is less crowded, no tourists, more intimacy.
My best sessions are during the Winter, early morning, dark grey sky, half raining, but nice waves and you know you will really deserve a nice warming meal after that :D .

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Re: PAIPO Foils.

Unread post by Atlantasurfer » Tue Oct 23, 2018 7:30 pm

Forgive me if these questions have been answered elsewhere, but I would like to attempt a plywood version of a simple foil board. I have always been intrigued by Gilbert Lum's creation.

Should the foil go under my center of mass? Some designs have the foil more to the rear.

Do heavier riders need more area in their foils? Is there a rule of thumb for size?

How "foiled" does the wing need to be? That is, flat at the bottom and arched at the top of the wing's leading edge.

What design pitfalls have you discovered through trial and error?


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Re: PAIPO Foils.

Unread post by Papa Paepo o » Wed Jan 30, 2019 10:56 pm

Aloha, Uncle George had created "Paipo Foil" since the surfboards foil came alive. He created two more foil paipo before his passing. Low profile but skim the surface of the surf.

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Re: PAIPO Foils.

Unread post by SURFFOILS » Wed Jan 30, 2019 11:07 pm

Here’s my 3 paipo boards , only 2 have foils attached. The shape of the foil is more important than the foil of the foil.
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